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which is best borate or ehylene glycol wood rot treatment

by Mrs. Berneice Reichert Published 3 years ago Updated 2 years ago

To treat wood rot, you can use borate, ethylene glycol, or bleach. Boric

Boric acid

Boric acid, also called hydrogen borate, boracic acid, and orthoboric acid is a weak, tribasic Lewis acid of boron, which is often used as an antiseptic, insecticide, flame retardant, neutron absorber, or precursor to other chemical compounds. It has the chemical formula H₃BO₃ (sometimes written B(O…

acid is powerful enough to kill fungus and its spores while binding to and dissolving water. All you have to do now is pour the acid into the wood to kill the fungus.

Glycol has an advantage over solutions of borates in either water or glycol. Glycol penetrated rapidly through paint, varnish and oil finishes (except epoxy and polyurethanes) without lifting or damaging those finishes in any way.

Full Answer

What is the best antifreeze to prevent rot on wood?

First, there are borates (borax-boric acid mixtures) which have an established record in preventing rot in new wood and in killing rot organisms and wood-destroying insects in infested wood. Second, there is Glycol, most readily available as auto antifreeze-coolant.

What is the best product to prevent wood from rotting?

First, there are the Borates (Borax, Boric acid mixtures,) which have demonstrated to prevent new wood from rotting and killing rot organisms and wood-destroying insects in infested wood.

Can you use propylene glycol and boric acid on wood?

Allow the wood to dry for two hours between applications. Boric acid and propylene glycol penetrate wood well due to their water-solubility. However, this excludes them from use on wood that is below the water line. The antifreeze mixture should be applied only when rain or snow is not forecast.

How do you kill rot in wood?

There are two inexpensive and commonly available materials which will kill rot in wood. and prevent its recurrence. First, there are the Borates (Borax, Boric acid mixtures,) which have demonstrated to prevent new wood from rotting and killing rot organisms and wood-destroying insects in infested wood.

Does borate stop wood rot?

Made from boric acid, "borates" are non-toxic to humans and other higher life forms, yet they kill wood rot and fungi on contact. They also exterminate any wood-destroying insects such as termites, carpenter ants and powder-post beetles that ingest the treated wood.

Is there a chemical to stop wood rot?

Boric acid (borate) is one of the most effective fungicides for use in treating wood rot. It can be applied to wood during construction to prevent future rot, or as a treatment to stop an active decay fungus from growing.

How does borax treat wood rot?

Arrange the raw wood so that each side can be treated with the Borax solution. Check that you are able to flip the pieces on edge and over onto the other side to get an even coverage of Borax onto the wood boards. Take the pump sprayer and the Borax to a water supply and mix up a batch of Borax wood treatment.

Is antifreeze a good wood preservative?

Antifreeze, boric powder and boric acid can be effectively used to eradicate and prevent rot in wood. Boric acid and glycol are both toxic to a wide range of fungi, organisms and insects that perpetuate rot in wood. Antifreeze can have two active ingredients: either ethylene glycol or propylene glycol.

Does ethylene glycol stop wood rot?

Second, there is ethylene glycol, most readily available as automotive antifreeze/coolant, For killing rot spores and wood-destroying organisms, nothing works better than ethylene-glycol antifreeze, unless it is antifreeze mixed with borates.

What is borate wood treatment?

Borate wood preservatives are low-toxicity treatments used primarily on indoor wood that is protected from weather. Borate wood preservatives have been used to treat wood for interior construction including joists, sheathing, sill plates and other uses for over 70 years.

How long does a borate treatment last?

How long will Bora-Care® stay in the wood? Since Bora-Care® is derived from minerals, once the active ingredient diffuses into the wood it will remain indefinitely. There are no natural forces that will degrade or break down the product inside the wood.

How long does borate treated wood last?

It is a long-lasting and affordable alternative to many other materials out there. It can last a significant amount of time if cared for properly. Pressure-treated wood can last up to 40 years with proper upkeep and treatment.

Is borax the same as borate?

Borax is a powdery white substance, also known as sodium borate, sodium tetraborate, or disodium tetraborate. It's widely used as a household cleaner and a booster for laundry detergent. It's a combination of boron, sodium, and oxygen.

How do you apply borate to wood?

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How do you mix borax for wood treatment?

6 parts of borax and 4 parts of boric acid. To prepare one gallon of a 10% solution, start with an oversize container (larger than 1 gallon ) add 1 lb. of powder to appx 3 qts of water agitating until the powder has dissolved, then add additional water to end up with 1 gallon of mix.

How do you make a borate solution?

Sodium Borate Buffer (1 M, pH 8.5) Preparation and RecipePrepare 800 mL of dH2O in a suitable container.Add 61.83 g of Boric Acid (H3BO3) to the solution.Add 10 g of Sodium Hydroxide to the solution.Add dH2O until the volume is 1 L.

What is the active ingredient in Shell Guard?

The active ingredient in Shell-Guard RTU is disodium octaborate tetrahydrate, chemically similar to a combination of boric acid and borax, but with higher concentration of boron which is responsible for the effectiveness. The borate is toxic to fungi that cause rot and decay, subterranean and drywood termites, carpenter ants and wood boring beetles.

How long does it take for a shell guard to dry?

The amount of time it takes Shell-Guard RTU to dry depends on the density and porosity of the wood, and temperature and humidity. In warm, dry temperatures the drying time may be as little as a few days. Under humid conditions it may take weeks of drying time before a stain can be applied.

What causes white residue on logs?

Occasionally a white residue may appear over knots and other areas of the logs. These white deposits are created by a small amount of the borate crystalizing on the surface. Their appearance does not mean that the treatment will not work! Wipe this residue off with a damp sponge.

Is shell guard good for wood decay?

If you just built a new home and the borate treatment was not included in the package from the manufacturer, Shell-Guard will be your cheapest insurance against wood decay and bug infestation. If the weather prevents from applying it outside, the interior application as effective as an exterior due to the penetrating properties of the Shell-Guard products.

Do you need to use water to treat logs?

You will be happy to know that you don't need to use water to apply borate treatment against wood decay and bug infestation. When it comes to treating a log home, the drier and more absorbent the surface is, the better the treatment will be. If you haven't done it already, this could be your perfect interior project this winter.

Is borate toxic to beetles?

The borate is toxic to fungi that cause rot and decay, subterranean and drywood termites, carpenter ants and wood boring beetles. It is also toxic to beetle eggs that may be in the wood at the time of treatment or eggs deposited sometime later.

What We Tested

We did not test treatments that might present chronic health hazards or are not aesthetically pleasing. Copper napthinate, found in products like Copper Green and Termin-8, for example, has a horrible smell and is not recommended for indoor use. It also stains the wood green.

How We Tested

Samples of fir, western red cedar, and pressure treated lumber were cut into roughly 11/16” x 1½” x 12” samples. One of each was set aside as a control (not exposed), and another was left untreated and exposed as an exposure control.

Teak treatment

Halberg-Rassey recommends Boracol, a glycol borate formulation, for maintenance of teak decks. To apply (DIY, Boracol or Bora-Care), clean and allow to dry for several days; the drier the wood, the more quickly and thoroughly it will be drawn in. Apply one moderate coat, covering about 350 square feet per gallon.

Observations

We coated the samples with three coats of each preservative, allowing drying time between applications. System 3 Wood Defense and the DIY borate solution dried within 24 hours, leaving a few crystals on the surface, which easily brush off. Moisture is thought to help the borate penetrate more deeply, so a light misting after drying should help.

Three Year Progress Report

Dimensional stability. One reason pressure treated lumber is not very useful in boats is warpage. As anyone who has been to the lumber section at a big box home improvement store can attest, firring strips and plywood sheets seem more prone to warpage if they’ve been pressure treated.

Liquids

Success with any liquid treatment hinges on drying time. If you are coating, you’ll have to wait until the timber is fully dry. Storing liquids on board can be more challenging than it is with solids.

Glycol Only

Drying is slow, as you would expect. There is limited evidence of rot protection. It is most often used for prevention of dry wood cracking.

How to treat rot on wood?

A preferred method to treat rot might be to soak the soft wood, or evidence of rot, in antifreeze, even if you can’t do any other repairs at the moment. Paint it on or stray it on with a coarse spray. Avoid mist-like spraying to avoid breathing in unhealthy amounts of glycol.

What is the best way to kill rot in wood?

There are two inexpensive and commonly available materials which will kill rot in wood. and prevent its recurrence. First, there are the Borates (Borax, Boric acid mixtures,) which have demonstrated to prevent new wood from rotting and killing rot organisms and wood-destroying insects in infested wood. Second, there is ethylene glycol, most readily ...

What is the solubility of borates in water?

Home-Brew Water Solution of Borates: Based on U.S. Navy specs, a ration of 60% borax and 40% boric acid gives the maximum solubility of borates in water. A mixture of 65% water, 20% borax and 15% boric acid (by weight) will yield a solution containing 15.8% borates.

How to make a stable solution?

This solution consists of 50% glycol antifreeze, 28% borax and 22% boric acid. To make a stable solution, mix ingredients and heat until it boils gently .

How much does borax cost?

Borax costs $.54/lb in a U.S. supermarket, boric acid costs about $4./lb in U.S. drug stores, but boric acid roach poison, about 99% boric acid is cheaper in discount stores. To make this solution, mix required quantities and heat until dissolved. Boric acid in particular, dissolves slowly.

How to make borax stable?

To make a stable solution, mix ingredients and heat until it boils gently. Boil off until thermometer shows 260o This removes most of the water of crystallization in the borax. This solution is stable at 40o (in the refrigerator) and has a borate content of 26%.

Is ethylene glycol a good antifreeze?

Second, there is ethylene glycol, most readily available as automotive antifreeze/coolant, For killing rot spores and wood-destroying organisms, nothing works better than ethylene-glycol antifreeze, unless it is antifreeze mixed with borates. Glycol is toxic to a broad spectrum of organisms, from staphylococcus bacteria to mammals.

What is Tim Bor?

It is a liquid concentrate that is mixed with water and sprayed on the affected wood and all of the wood surrounding that area. A solution of Tim-bor can also be used if the wood has a moisture content of 20% or greater.

Is it safe to use antifreeze with ethylene glycol?

Exposure to large amounts of Ethylene Glycolcan damage the kidneys, heart, and nervous system. Propylene Glycol is generally regarded as safe for use in food. Antifreeze that is sold as "Earth Friendly", "Environmentally Safe", etc are generally based on Propylene...Make Sure You Buy The Propylene Glycol, NOT the Ethylene!!!

How to make a concentrated solution for wood rot?

Step 1. Make a concentrated solution to combat wood rot. Combine the boric acid, borax powder and antifreeze in the following ratio: 50 percent antifreeze, 28 percent borax powder and 22 percent boric acid. If you intend to make 40 oz. of concentrate, you will need 30 oz. antifreeze, 5.6 oz. of borax powder and 4.4 oz. of boric acid.

How to get rid of rotting wood?

Combine equal parts of the antifreeze mixture with water when applying it to rotting wood. Use a hand sprayer to soak the wood surface with the mixture. Remove any sealant or finish on the wood prior to application in order to expedite penetration. Apply two coats of the antifreeze mixture for large areas of wood rot. Allow the wood to dry for two hours between applications.

What is antifreeze used for?

Hand sprayer. Antifreeze brands that are described as environmentally or earth friendly usually contain propylene glycol. Antifreeze, boric powder and boric acid can be effectively used to eradicate and prevent rot in wood. Boric acid and glycol are both toxic to a wide range of fungi, ...

How much antifreeze do you need for 40 oz of concentrate?

If you intend to make 40 oz. of concentrate, you will need 30 oz. antifreeze, 5.6 oz. of borax powder and 4.4 oz. of boric acid.

Is antifreeze a toxic substance?

Boric acid and glycol are both toxic to a wide range of fungi, organisms and insects that perpetuate rot in wood. Antifreeze can have two active ingredients: either ethylene glycol or propylene glycol. Since ethylene glycol can cause damage to the heart, nervous system and kidneys through prolonged exposure, you should consider propylene glycol ...

Ethylene Glycol, Rot Treatment & Epoxy

Its been since about 2006 since The Chemist posted "Ethylene Glycol in Epoxy: A study of insidious degradation" . .

Re: Ethylene Glycol, Rot Treatment & Epoxy

One thing I can say:''Stay away from polyester resin on wood''. With or without ethylene glycol, it definitly delaminate from wood.

Re: Ethylene Glycol, Rot Treatment & Epoxy

I would call the tech guys who make the epoxy you intend to use. Or call a bunch, maybe different formulations react differently.

Re: Ethylene Glycol, Rot Treatment & Epoxy

Thanks. I have seen those studies. Those who speculate suggest the borate salt interferes with the bond. So as you say, straight EG by itself or w 50% water was a "go" according to the West SHORT TERM study.

Re: Ethylene Glycol, Rot Treatment & Epoxy

Is it possible to apply normal commercial car anti freeze, or would it be better to try and find pure ethylene glycol ? I nearly finished the framework on my boat and I'm looking for ways to treat it.

Re: Ethylene Glycol, Rot Treatment & Epoxy

Car antifreeaze has elements of other chemicals in it- rust inhibitors etc. eBay has lots of results for ethylene glycol. In looking for a rot treatment for my skiff I ended up using this; Multi Shield 5Litre Wet Rot-Dry Rot, Woodworm Treatment

Re: Ethylene Glycol, Rot Treatment & Epoxy

A lot of people like the Chemist have left here.... not a big surprise, given the new crop of 'experts'.

What is the best treatment for wood?

Ethylene glycol, or glycol, readily available as permanent auto antifreeze is the most versatile and effective treating agent for stabilizing wood against the dimensional changes caused by variations in water content. Glycerol and sugar solutions act similarly to glycol, but nowhere near as rapidly.

Can you sand wood to remove dye?

Oh yes, one more thing. The dye in it will slightly tint the surface of the wood, so sanding will be required to remove it. Dust mask and gloves. Be careful.

Does boric acid work as a vehicle?

Propylene Glycol as a vehicle to carry boric acid works well. The boric acid is commonly available under various names as ant, roach, flea and mold killer.#N#The boric acid is water soluble and will eventually leach out. For interior or well sealed surfaces it should last quite a while.

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